“Tarzan and the Great War” by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
“The Fallen” by Mercedes Lackey
“The Forgotten Sea of Mars” by Mike Resnick
“Scorpion Men of Venus” by Richard Lupoff
“Apache Lawman” by Ralph Roberts
“Tarzan and the Martian Invaders” by Kevin J. Anderson and Sarah Hoyt
“Moon Maid over Manhattan” by Peter David
“The Two Billys” by Max Alan Collins and Matthew Clemens
“To The Nearest Planet” by Todd McCaffrey
“The Dead World” by F. Paul Wilson
“Tarzan and The Land That Time Forgot” by Joe R. Lansdale
- coming this October ( Link)
Greetings gentle Barsoomians ! Only two more sleeps -I saw THE MOVIE last Saturday night at the Disney Burbank Studio. They showed a Disney 'in house' sizzle real before the movie. It REALLY made me want to see the movie right away - and I did. I laughed, I cried, and I wanted to see it again immediately. I'll be posting my thoughts on the movie soon.
Artist Ricardo Delgado is well-known for his dinosaur comics. And you can certainly see that influence in his Thark and other Martian creature designs. http://ricardodelgadoart.blogspot.ca/
I’m guessing from the dates on the art that production designer Iain McCaig brought Delgado in while they were still scripting John Carter of Mars. He was there to basically just a brainstorm, which I think is heaven on earth for an artist. I would love to be paid to just sit down and scratch out details of the characters, world and creatures of Barsoom and just let my imagination run wild all over the place. (more…)
Okay, that last was a ton of work. I’m going to take a little easier this time.
Now we’re off to the Thern temple. Yea yea yea I know that the Tharks in the books have no culture, but nobody has ‘no culture’ except maybe the Kardashians. I’ve always considered John Carter an ‘unreliable narrator’, so one level I view the movie ( sort of ) as the ‘real story’. If the movie wasn’t accurate in getting the world right I wouldn’t do that, or if Woola was pink and furry I’d be done. But Barsoom has a culture that includes Issus and Therns and the film-makers are trying making a dense, functional trilogy. I’m willing to go with that.
I like the look of the collapsed ( at least I think it’s collapsed ) temple walls, and I notice that the skylight here is the same shape as the one the glass hall in Helium.
Carter asks if a carving represents a Thern and Sola explains that it’s Issus the goddess – I think that’s a total tune out moment for an audience. But it is set up for The Gods of Mars.
I like how John just grabs Dejah and jumps up on the ledge. When they slam into the wall he doesn’t even say sorry – but I do understand him just grabbing her. Actually, this is done well and part of their relationship right off the bat. They have a lot of physical contact right away. He grabs her in the air, she gets real close and wipes her sword on his Thark diaper, she is tossed in his arms by Tars…
Before we get into this, I have another title – John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood OR Re-living the Agony.
Oh god it hurts, it hurts so bad – mommy ?
I started barsoomia.org in 2008 when John Favreau had John Carter of Mars. Favs was on MySpace and very communicative. We all went through a few ups and downs through script reviews , budgets – the fact that head of Paramount hated it canned it. Favreau went on to Iron Man which I really liked and Paramount went to Star Trek which I really liked but at the time was furious because ‘who needs another Star Trek ?!”
Previously I had upped and downed ( and not in a good way ) through Disney’s Tom Cruise John Carter project, eventually James Jacks farmed it around, landing Robert Rodriguez, loosing Rodriguez, Kerry Conran – and we’re back to Favreau.
Around the time that Conran was the project Mike Carambat ( not to be confused with Michael ) started up his fan site www.johncartermovie.com. I spent a delirious late afternoon in my kitchen making supper while conversing through Mike’s chat stream with Harry Knowles about thoats, tharks and Helium CG models and motion tests. Then of course it crashed back to heartbreak hotel. Jon Favreau stepped in for the final act at Paramount. (more…)
If you’re reading barsoomia.org I’m really assuming of Michael Sellars’ new book, John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood. But just in case you haven’t, this is something you need to know about. You can buy it directly from Michael at The John Carter Files or through Amazon HERE. I’m waiting for mine in the mail right now. – Jeff
A look at the dialogue shows the scene shooting in 3 directions at once. Or – are they reading the same script ?
I’m warning you, this is going to be rough. Yes I wrote out all the dialogue, I can’t tear it apart unless I have in front of me. I’m using color to make the reading easier. And no pretty pictures this time, this took me long enough to do. So here we go.
Draped in baby Tharks. I love it, and he is gentle with them.
Now the star of the movie arrives WOOLA ! He looked like a potato in the posters, but is great on screen. (more…)
Ah Dejah…. unfortunately in this first viewing of Dejah I have no idea how wonderful she is going to be. I find her line about ‘rubbish’ overly theatrical and painful. That is followed by ‘I present to you the answer’ with yet another flinch. After this she is perfect. Totally. (more…)
If I was reading my posts I think that Jeff loves everything about the John Carter movie. I really like it and I’ve seen it several times now. Maybe seven. I saw it first at a special screening on the Disney lot and I’m from Canada so I certainly had made an effort to be there. I cried a lot through my first few viewings. Mostly from the emotional build up of waiting a lifetime to see my favorite book on screen. The third viewing may have also been influenced by the time in the bar with friends before the the movie too. That was my most extreme case of loosing it. I seem to be past that stage now. I’ve always been kind of easygoing about adapting A Princess of Mars to the screen as I expect a lot of changes. I’m not uncritical of the text at all. Quit honestly, I think it goes way off track at about the 3/4 point. ( I’ve now done a bit of a second edit of my embarrassing typos ) (more…)
Ii always like to credit my sources , so I first read about this on the Back to Barsoom Facebook site. Originally from AOL Moviefone. – Jeff
It’s weird to think of a $200 million Disney event movie directed by the filmmaker behind “Finding Nemo” as a “lost” film, but that’s exactly what “John Carter” was. Based on a series of hugely influential, hundred-year-old pulp novels by Edgar Rice Burroughs, and flattened by the one-two punch of bad press and pour marketing, “John Carter” died a dog’s death at the box office this spring, despite being a deeply strange, wildly imaginative and hugely personal blockbuster. True, “John Carter” is a discombobulated mess, often times getting lost in a tangle of subplots and arcane terminology, but it works more often than it should, and has an easygoing, overtly earnest charm that’s hard to shrug off. Taylor Kitsch, from “Friday Night Lights,” plays the title role, a grumpy Confederate soldier zapped to Mars (that tired old story). Andrew Stanton, a Pixar veteran, made his live action debut with “John Carter,” and the action sequences have a zippy inventiveness befitting someone with an animation background (the script was co-written by Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Michael Chabon), often resulting in bold, sometimes deeply unsettling decisions. Known primarily as an astronomical financial dud, “John Carter” will one day rightfully be recognized for what it truly is — an utterly winning cult classic.
Hey guys , last week I did an interview with Ric and Art of The Book Cave. We talked about my art, John Carter, art, John Carter and books too ! Check it out at http://thebookcave.libsyn.com/the-book-cave-episode-208-jeff-doten . They do talk about stuff on my site, so if you want to treat it like a book and tape (turn page now ) you can go to www.jeffdoten.com to listen and look at the same time ! – Jeff
Michael Sellars – http://thejohncarterfiles.com/ has a long transcript of his John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood — Presentation at the Edgar Rice Burroughs Centennial Celebration
Michael talks a lot about the anticipation and response to the JOHN CARTER trailers and media response. It led me back into my archives of Barsoomia.org to see where I and my readers were at the time. I discovered that I had started Barsoomia on March 23 2008 and that I had a total ( until this one ) of 425 post. Previous to starting Barsoomia.org I had been hanging out at Mike’s johncartermovie.com from somewhere around 2004/5. We had watched the (more…)
I think Disney’s pretty done with JOHN CARTER and as Michael at thejohncarterfiles has said, may have been for long before the movie opened. This STAR WARS deal didn’t come out of no where, nor was it brokered ( is that the right word ? ) overnight.
I did a little research about the finances of Clash of the Titans and Wrath of the Titans. Nobody loved those, nobody had special screenings or sequel campaigns. But they made a second one. Clash made a LOT more than John Carter at the box office and cost $150 million instead of $250. It’s too bad that we don’t have an idea about the very successful Blu ray and rental $$$ for JOHN CARTER.
But Carter is a lot better than those movies. It’s something people fall in love with, and it’s still going on. Other filmmakers are going experience/know this too. And there’s a history with JOHN CARTER that isn’t there with Clash of the Titans. I was really surprised how many people used the phrase ‘obscure book’ while reporting on JOHN CARTER, but as the phrase goes – ” you know nothing Jon Snow.” I was 15 in 1977, the year Star Wars came out. I was ‘late’ on the second ERB book boom. EVERYONE had read or knew those books. Everyone who was a geek anyways, or even mildly so. When I was older I went to SF cons and I worked in book stores, I sold those books and talked to people about them. We couldn’t keep the books on the shelves. The history of JOHN CARTER doesn’t start and end with it being published in 1912.
Is it time for A Princess of Mars ? I was intrigued by Favreau’s take on the material, a much smaller ( so he say’s ) version that seems to be mostly about Carter’s time with the Tharks. As much as I love Stanton’s take on it, the thought of Favreau’s makes me wistful. I was one of the guys online with him ( on MySpace !) the day that Paramount dumped it and he moved to Iron Man. He was really involved with us fans.
S0 here’s my theory. Disney is done with JOHN CARTER, but the property still exists, and may be gaining a new kind of street cred. The movie is well liked and increasingly so. Is there some opportunistic someone out there that knows/loves the material that that figures they can do it right ? That can do it for $150 million like Favreau’s may have been ? It’s not like there’s only one Tarzan movie out there. I started this with the mention of A Princess of Mars, but maybe it should be The Gods of Mars. Half reboot, half sequel. Star Wars opens part way into its story and the seems to have worked out okay.
This doesn’t mean I’m counting on it. Not at all, but weirder things have happened and movie makers have never passed up the chance to make a buck. – Jeff
Uuuuh, okay. I didn’t really see this coming, I was was the monster storm. Anyways, they bought it. The news says the deal includes an new Star Wars movie in something like 3 years from now. Considering what Lucas has done to the franchise it can’t get any worse. Oh – unless it’s a remake. Let’s not go there, but now I have to wash the idea out of my brain.
And John Carter ? Off the cuff I’d have to say this probably gets even more in the way of that happening, but who knows. Maybe a head of Disney will go all sci fi and they go for it. Or they sell it, that’s come up too. I really don’t know what to think of this. Except a remake, I know what I think of that. And I still want my Gods of Mars. You can read all about it HERE.- Jeff
Thanks to Andy over on the Facebook Back to Barsoom page here’s a little further news on the Star Wars movies. It looks like George is handing over the reins. Maybe we’ll get good ones again – and that SF success leads to more JOHN CARTER of course
Thanks to Diana for this -
People’s Choice Awards voting has opened today thru Nov. 15th. John Carter has made the nomination list for Favorite Superhero. Please make a write-in selection for John Carter the film and the actors/actresses that represent the film for all the categories that it affects and vote at the link below to show the public that this was a good film which was under-appreciated, and to show Disney that “John Carter still lives”!!!
If you have trouble getting into the site, try again later. There is heavy traffic now from Barsoomians, Hunger Games fans, Avengers fans, etc. Apparently you can vote as many times as you want throughout the voting period and you can bet these other groups will be. For the Favorite Movie Fan Following, the Back to Barsoom group is using “Barsoomians” as a general description. Also, it looks like if you write in a choice you also have to vote for one of their selections for the vote to take.
Good luck, this is very important for the film to get the national recognition it deserves.
I need to stop, I think this out of my system for a while now. This didn’t take anywhere as long as the Gods of Mars poster, it’a more like doing one of the quadrants. The image is also being used as the cover as the cover the Back to Barsoom ( we want a sequel ! ) Facebook group petitions collected at this summer’s ECOF. Those of course will be delivered to Disney…. – Jeff
It seems I posted the poster everywhere but here. – Jeff
Man this was a tough one. I love John Carter of Mars , I love movie posters and of course I wanted to ‘get it right’ or at least reasonable…. Other than reasonable a likenesses of Taylor and Lynn, I wanted a bigger picture, more than a group of heads. I wanted some of the exciting new environments and creatures from Gods, and I wanted to deal with the heart of the story, John reuniting with Dejah. I mostly do book cover work so I spent a lot of time looking at movie posters, absorbing their language. I was pretty sure that I wanted a colorful, fun, and somewhat retro look. I looked at a lot old posters, old Flash Gordon’s , 60s and 70s cheap sci fi movies, of course the Star Wars posters, I can’t pretend I didn’t… Star Wars posters usually give the best of both worlds, portraits of the leads and a look at the environments, ships, landscapes, creatures and characters. I knew this what I wanted. I wanted it all. (more…)
This is new, they’ve even added some new JCish new graphics, it’s not just clips from the movie. I can’t findit on youtube, so just jump on through HERE - Jeff
Yea, we don’t have any John Carter toys (yet) and I’m not over that. I was stashing money in my sock drawer over a two year period in anticipation of a spending frenzy that wouldn’t make my wife want to stab me. But I have to say that this Second Screen App is so full of goodies that it does show something that someone at Disney did more that right. It’s marvelous. I still haven’t gone through all of it. Anyways, this morning’s image offerings are snipped off the that wonderful app. Enjoy – Jeff
So my daughter and I were watching Fellowship of the Ring last night. I had to get a copy from the library because I only have the extended editions which are something like 5 1/2 hours long each. Julia’s 14 and she’s a reader, but she hasn’t read any of the Lord of the Rings stuff. By the time Gandolf has decided to go see Sauruman (sp ? ) she’s basically said ‘okay okay stop the movie, what the hell’s going on ?’ So I have to explain that Saurumen is Gandalf’s boss and he has this magic ball and through it the bad guy Sauron ( the names sure don’t help) has got into his head and now he’s is all bad bad bad. It was at that point that I remembered my first viewing of the movie, and my not knowing what’s going on either. And I had read the books more than once. I was even working on a mural for a restaurant called The House at Bag End, and yet, in the context of watching the movie I was just as lost as Julia. (more…)